Test versions public ?

Message

Konnar · #1 Post by **Konnar** » August 25th, 2006, 3:27 pm

Hey people its me the whore

Just a suggestion, how about making test versions public ? Given most of the games hosted pubicly are by members of this community anyways, and the map needs an update, badly. With so much new content, isn't it worth the 1.11 name ? It's just a number, its not like ninjas are going to flip out and make your computer commit seppuku once you release 1.11 haha

mianmian · #2 Post by **mianmian** » August 25th, 2006, 4:12 pm

Because releasing a version as buggy as test6, gives a really bad impression to the public. Half the skills dont work in test6, and there;s no balance on UD

I know we all want to play test6 and UD, but there are reasons

Some pubbies, well, channel regulars got to play test6

Hammel · #3 Post by **Hammel** » August 26th, 2006, 9:22 am

I suppose we found most bugs, T7 will show the ones we didnt have yet, or Yak didnt fix properly (and the ones we didnt post), and then there MIGHT be a T8, showing everything works fine, and then the pubs can play the full release. I mean we got it all now, and one week more or less won't save/kill the pubbies.

While we know that it is just a test-map, downloading pubbies will not know it and never play that bugged map agian, as mian pointed out.

-Ham

Ion · #4 Post by **Ion** » August 28th, 2006, 12:22 pm

We should at some point release a test because that'll get more people playing again.

Would stir everyone up to start up Test7 and find the Undead on their team. I was quite shocked when it happened to me, let alone a pubby who'd been considering playing the Inf. or that "wolf-guy" for the zillionth. time today.

Or maybe they'd even be dissapointed they couldn't play the Warden. =(

mianmian · #5 Post by **mianmian** » August 28th, 2006, 1:08 pm

Ya, I know, I remember that game, our whole team was like OMFG, YAK! WTF OMFG

Then a few minutes later the other team was like OMFG YAK!, WTF OMFG!

And Yak was like... lol @ u nubs :p

Hammel · #6 Post by **Hammel** » August 28th, 2006, 1:37 pm

Don't forget Dek's sig, 1 day before T6 ^^. And yeah, pubbies would be scared if I come as Nephi and own their asses :/ Well, now they've got a reason to be pissed, so why not?

-Ham

Furion · #7 Post by **Furion** » August 31st, 2006, 1:17 pm

attract them with 1.10 it has enough content with obelisks spawn towers and heros to keep some, who is new to the map busy for a while....
so they can get he new stuff some weeks later

if they play a test version they wont mention whats new, because they dont know what was there before and what not

also it happened to me that some pubby asked me what an old version (played 1.10) this is, heros dont even have talents

Ya, I know, I remember that game, our whole team was like OMFG, YAK! WTF OMFG

Then a few minutes later the other team was like OMFG YAK!, WTF OMFG!

And Yak was like... lol @ u nubs :p

i dont have to understand that, do i?

mianmian · #8 Post by **mianmian** » August 31st, 2006, 2:11 pm

dont have to understand that, do i?

no, you dont :p

People rarely do anyway :p

What I would do to see the smug look on Yaks face while we were loading :p

Furion · #9 Post by **Furion** » August 31st, 2006, 3:09 pm

hum why?
what did he do to you?

#10 Post by **Tehw00tz** » August 31st, 2006, 11:38 pm

He didn't exactly tell us that UD was a valid race.
He didn't exactly tell us that a certain hero had half his abilties broken(or didn't know)

[quote=mianmian]Because releasing a version as buggy as test6, gives a really bad impression to the public. Half the skills dont work in test6, and there;s no balance on UD

I know we all want to play test6 and UD, but there are reasons

Some pubbies, well, channel regulars got to play test6 [/quote]
I fully agree.

To releasing T6 public, if you hang around the channel long enough or join the clan, we could trust you with the map, but believe me, releasing so a buggy map as T6 would give EotA a very bad impression.

CryptLord1234 · September 1st, 2006, 6:36 pm

Hrm. Any chance on the UD spawns changing stats for the actual release? If not, I gotta become a channel regular and get my hands on T6 so I can complete my (mentioned in the web page area) Spawn Tower unit guide.

Hammel · #12 Post by **Hammel** » September 2nd, 2006, 4:11 am

Since UD spawns still need to be balanced, releasing the stats wouldnt be too good imo, also they don't have talents atm.

Just this much:

Tank: Abomination
Ranged: Fire Spawn
Caster: Umm... Void Walker (called Lost Soul)
Siege: Meat Wagon
Air: Frost Wyrm
Special: Ghasts (spawn Zombies when unit is killed short after their attack...), also they got some tanking powers (1200 hp), apart from the massing zombies. Dunno whether zombies also give "Zombie Disease"

-Ham

CryptLord1234 · September 3rd, 2006, 7:58 am

Right, which is why I asked.

Hammel · #14 Post by **Hammel** » September 3rd, 2006, 10:21 am

Btw: the ghasts are large blue zombies, the zombie-spawns are smaller and have the normal zombie model, brown and stuff.

-Ham

#15 Post by **DarnYak** » September 3rd, 2006, 1:24 pm

Hammel wrote:Dunno whether zombies also give "Zombie Disease"

They do

DarnYak

Hammel · #16 Post by **Hammel** » September 3rd, 2006, 2:23 pm

Atm I am wondering... can you dispel zombies (like Arach spawns and pets)? If yes: LOL... TC is going to use the ghasts against the enemy heroes... want to see a 1 minute Slowing Blade? (together with Ebb she can hit again and again)... LOL. You just have to dispel 20 zombies...

No, seriously, is it possible?

Ohh, and before I forget it: AoE buffs/debuffs are a great target to dispell because the effect may be huge (see above, or think of Treant creating 20 faeries through that), whereas some summons (Mind Fog, Mana Surge, Mana Storm, etc.) nearly don't give anything at all... 4 seconds of slowing blade? Useless. Can you change that somehow? And along with that, decrease the power of dispells? (in case you keep them at all)

-Ham

CryptLord1234 · September 3rd, 2006, 5:14 pm

Eh, on the buff/debuff topic, The dispels'd really, really screw the buff-er over, since they remove only POSITIVE buffs, leaving the negative ones. Think of the DW, making a longer-lasting Fire Golem (Or Treant and A bunch o' fairies, w/e) against weakened troops.

Hammel · #18 Post by **Hammel** » September 4th, 2006, 8:51 am

Well, Dispels remove negative buffs from allies... ^^ So they also hurt debuffers and summoners (of course)

Ohh, and the amount of buffs removed only changes the duration of the Fire Elemental, not the power

Power is done via skill level. And the Elemental ist strong enough to take out a whole army, it is more like some support.

Same for Treant, just that the amount of faeries changes, power via level. But since they deal magic damage, most buffs won't make them more powerful. Just like the Elemental, they are too weak themselves.

AC Dispel: No additional effect on summons, on other units it is ruinatious, -18 armor on level 6... together with units that is powerful, but AC should be able to kill them by herself, too... think of Gale and Tangleweed.

TC Dispel: Power via skill level, Duration of the Blade via amount of buffs/units killed/removed, slow duration set... well, not much to say about it. It is fun to catch a (de+)buffing gravel with this, Ebb and Degen on Level 6 with mass int/evoc damage... GG Grav. He is slow anyways and double-slowed, he will get owned by Degen.

-Ham