Eve of the Apocalypse: Twilight

This is purely a hypothetical question, mostly for getting a feel of what people most want for my sc2 map. Feel free to elaborate in replies.

DarnYak

I said a revamp of Hero's. Personally, I haven't had too many balance complaints with the game, that couldn't be resolved with items anyway. I missed the boat on upgrades, so have no opinion on that. I'm content to play on Stormwail peak, and there are plenty of Heroes already. Another race? We've already got 4 (1 in v. early stages) New items/artifacts - why bother. The item system is pretty basic and accessible, so why complicate it further? 4 maps is fine, even if they aren't all perfectly balanced - more then one would expect from the game in the first place.

So I'm pretty much inclined to say some of the kits on the current hero's need to be redone - some have great synergy, some do not. If you can make them all a more fun/accessible/interesting then they already are, I think it would add alot.

TL;DR - IMO Hero revamp.

Upgrades. They add that extra-special level of complexity to the game that I love so much.

I would probably like my level 20 hero put into the game.

More eastereggs.

Upgrades too.

I just beat Streets of Rage 2 with no continues. Make Axel a playable hero in EotA

Is changing the lore so Fenny survives the apocalypse a valid present?

Upgrades return!

Tehw00tz wrote:I just beat Streets of Rage 2 with no continues. Make Axel a playable hero in EotA

That is awesome.

I said revamp the heroes- take them to the ironing board so that when you are done with the map forever for real, what you do have completed is brilliant.

Ocean.dll wrote:I said revamp the heroes- take them to the ironing board so that when you are done with the map forever for real, what you do have completed is brilliant.

That's a pretty compelling arguement. Not having to live with "goddamnit I really wanted to remake TC's ult, it would have been awesome." Of course, I think the demon race having a total of one hero would end up bothering me more.

DarnYak

Oh, I didn't realize that you had some work done on the demon race. I would have to assume its this Gron character everyone keeps talking about.

Maybe Gron could be an easter egg somewhere? A character model named "Gron's Revenge" sitting in a body of water with fog over top the water.

Ocean.dll wrote:I didn't realize that you had some work done on the demon race.

Only the Glacial Tyrant and the basic structures/units. Everything else was just vague hero concepts I never fleshed out. I tried to add a Kedge themed demon at one point to go along with the rest (there was suppose to be an entire version devoted to Kedge themed additions) but couldn't come up with ANY skills for him (he was suppose to be a demon version of swashy).

DarnYak

Aw, bummer. Kedge was my favorite of the additional maps.

And what about Zujani? From Exodus? I mean, he isn't a great hero to use in EotA, and his ult would be beyond lame, but I feel like its a start. Make cleave actually exciting by making it activatable and hurting friendly units or something, I dunno. I'm just spitballing.

Also, it would be cool to see him carry over from Exodus to Twilight.

My present... and feel free to say "no", but... how about letting the heroes talk? Like, add in little floating chat during combat or certain events unique to every hero, and possibly the same system for units too, though it doesn't have to be unique then. It's because I don't really feel I know the hero that well, and would like to be able to identify with him better -- this was done in AotZ when each hero had their own background history which could be viewed by clicking him, and after every kill (creep or hero) he would say a random quote. For example;

Mesmer
"Hmm, not much in your head to play with, is there?"
"An open mind is like a fortress with gates unbarred and unguarded."
Aoto Ronin
"Focus, unsheath, slash, sheath; four moves, one life."
Celestial Seeker
"Two stepped in; only I stepped out."
Arbor Eternal
"Hmm, what did I step on this time...?"

Now I'm aware this isn't fully original and we probably don't need it but I would like something to help me understand my hero beyond the initial description, because honestly, I really don't know their lore or personalities that well, and it would help the depth of the game immensely.

So, I've come to realize I've effectively done all of the options to some extent, aside from items (new race is a stretch if you count the neutral mercenary faction heroes). I really didn't intend this when I made the post.

And yes, at the very least I'll be looking at items before I'm done.

DarnYak

Add Arachnus, King of Spiders, Lord of Webs, Ruler of New Web City to the poll please.