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Encouragement and Mass haste can't coexist

Posted: July 9th, 2009, 8:54 am
by Discombobulator
The second buff overwrites the first, but it retains its graphic.

Re: Encouragement and Mass haste can't coexist

Posted: July 9th, 2009, 9:04 am
by GeneralFunk
Same applies to Kindling Faith (Blazing Priest) and Heart of the Mountain (Colossus). Bringing up the issue Yak said he'd do nothing about it, though I suggested "combo move" type things like nightmare + dire howl, backfire + siphon glyph as a compensation for the conflicting buff types.

Re: Encouragement and Mass haste can't coexist

Posted: July 9th, 2009, 11:07 am
by DarnYak
I can't do anything about it, because blizz removed the ability for buffs based on the same spell to stack.

DarnYak

Re: Encouragement and Mass haste can't coexist

Posted: July 9th, 2009, 12:36 pm
by Cokemonkey11
Just change the buff's base ID? Or have you used them all?

Re: Encouragement and Mass haste can't coexist

Posted: July 9th, 2009, 3:00 pm
by DarnYak
3 times over or something

DarnYak

Re: Encouragement and Mass haste can't coexist

Posted: July 9th, 2009, 5:52 pm
by Elreth
Mass regen also wont stack with heart of the mountain

Re: Encouragement and Mass haste can't coexist

Posted: July 9th, 2009, 10:16 pm
by Cokemonkey11
DarnYak wrote:3 times over or something

DarnYak
Ouch. :( One more reason sc2 will be so much better.

Re: Encouragement and Mass haste can't coexist

Posted: July 9th, 2009, 11:04 pm
by Tehw00tz
You cannot say that for certain.

Re: Encouragement and Mass haste can't coexist

Posted: July 10th, 2009, 1:36 am
by Cokemonkey11
I can. They announced that. You don't read the updates on bnet forums?

Re: Encouragement and Mass haste can't coexist

Posted: July 10th, 2009, 3:07 am
by BustroQuick
Use tornado slow aura and item abilities!

Re: Encouragement and Mass haste can't coexist

Posted: July 10th, 2009, 4:02 am
by Dekar
Tornado abilities ftw.

Re: Encouragement and Mass haste can't coexist

Posted: July 10th, 2009, 12:14 pm
by Cokemonkey11
BustroQuick wrote:Use tornado slow aura and item abilities!
Explain how that works. You mean in combination?

Re: Encouragement and Mass haste can't coexist

Posted: July 10th, 2009, 12:53 pm
by BustroQuick
Tornado slow aura can to stack on itself (meaning unlimited buffs based upon the same ability) and doesn't show up as an ability when added to a unit. Item abilities can be used to stack the buff effects. However, this is probably a lot more work than it's worth.

Re: Encouragement and Mass haste can't coexist

Posted: July 10th, 2009, 2:33 pm
by Cokemonkey11
ic. good to know.

Re: Encouragement and Mass haste can't coexist

Posted: July 30th, 2009, 5:03 pm
by aegir ravenking
Just had a game with with me as Dread Shaman against Fenris. He was somehow disabling my mass regen. It was either lunge or hamstring I think lunge. Made killing him a bitch.

Yes the graphic was still there, but the tooltip was gone.

Re: Encouragement and Mass haste can't coexist

Posted: July 30th, 2009, 5:12 pm
by Dark_Nemesis
Sure it wasn't Howl? I know that's had some goofy issues in the past. Such as nuking creeps when used with Scarab's Nightmare.

Re: Encouragement and Mass haste can't coexist

Posted: July 30th, 2009, 5:14 pm
by AlienFromBeyond
Valiant Stand talent from Tactician gets overwritten by the Talisman of the Sun buff, even when it's weaker.

Re: Encouragement and Mass haste can't coexist

Posted: July 30th, 2009, 5:16 pm
by aegir ravenking
Howl+nightmare is supposed to do that. And yes at first I thought it could be Howl, but at least 3 of the times mass regen failed on me I am sure the puppy never cast dire howl.

At some point I will watch the replay to be sure.

edit: Yep it is Lunge.

Re: Encouragement and Mass haste can't coexist

Posted: July 30th, 2009, 6:43 pm
by Dark_Nemesis
Valiant Stand talent from Tactician gets overwritten by the Talisman of the Sun buff, even when it's weaker.
NNNOOOOO, that's one of the better combos too. Seriously, that item is probably the best in the game for her, easily. Definitely my first choice.

Re: Encouragement and Mass haste can't coexist

Posted: July 31st, 2009, 8:22 pm
by AlienFromBeyond
Elreth wrote:Mass regen also wont stack with heart of the mountain
Or with Mana Rush.

I think combo stuff like GeneralFunk said would be best for situations like this.

EDIT: Mana Rush and Rapid Healing are overwriting each other. I presume this has to do with the talent that makes Mana Rush heal.