Encouragement and Mass haste can't coexist

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Discombobulator · #1 Post by **Discombobulator** » July 9th, 2009, 8:54 am

The second buff overwrites the first, but it retains its graphic.

GeneralFunk · #2 Post by **GeneralFunk** » July 9th, 2009, 9:04 am

Same applies to Kindling Faith (Blazing Priest) and Heart of the Mountain (Colossus). Bringing up the issue Yak said he'd do nothing about it, though I suggested "combo move" type things like nightmare + dire howl, backfire + siphon glyph as a compensation for the conflicting buff types.

#3 Post by **DarnYak** » July 9th, 2009, 11:07 am

I can't do anything about it, because blizz removed the ability for buffs based on the same spell to stack.

DarnYak

Cokemonkey11 · #4 Post by **Cokemonkey11** » July 9th, 2009, 12:36 pm

Just change the buff's base ID? Or have you used them all?

#5 Post by **DarnYak** » July 9th, 2009, 3:00 pm

3 times over or something

DarnYak

Elreth · #6 Post by **Elreth** » July 9th, 2009, 5:52 pm

Mass regen also wont stack with heart of the mountain

Cokemonkey11 · #7 Post by **Cokemonkey11** » July 9th, 2009, 10:16 pm

DarnYak wrote:3 times over or something

DarnYak

Ouch.

One more reason sc2 will be so much better.

#8 Post by **Tehw00tz** » July 9th, 2009, 11:04 pm

You cannot say that for certain.

Cokemonkey11 · #9 Post by **Cokemonkey11** » July 10th, 2009, 1:36 am

I can. They announced that. You don't read the updates on bnet forums?

#10 Post by **BustroQuick** » July 10th, 2009, 3:07 am

Use tornado slow aura and item abilities!

Dekar · #11 Post by **Dekar** » July 10th, 2009, 4:02 am

Tornado abilities ftw.

Cokemonkey11 · #12 Post by **Cokemonkey11** » July 10th, 2009, 12:14 pm

BustroQuick wrote:Use tornado slow aura and item abilities!

Explain how that works. You mean in combination?

#13 Post by **BustroQuick** » July 10th, 2009, 12:53 pm

Tornado slow aura can to stack on itself (meaning unlimited buffs based upon the same ability) and doesn't show up as an ability when added to a unit. Item abilities can be used to stack the buff effects. However, this is probably a lot more work than it's worth.

Cokemonkey11 · #14 Post by **Cokemonkey11** » July 10th, 2009, 2:33 pm

ic. good to know.

aegir ravenking · #15 Post by **aegir ravenking** » July 30th, 2009, 5:03 pm

Just had a game with with me as Dread Shaman against Fenris. He was somehow disabling my mass regen. It was either lunge or hamstring I think lunge. Made killing him a bitch.

Yes the graphic was still there, but the tooltip was gone.

Dark_Nemesis · #16 Post by **Dark_Nemesis** » July 30th, 2009, 5:12 pm

Sure it wasn't Howl? I know that's had some goofy issues in the past. Such as nuking creeps when used with Scarab's Nightmare.

AlienFromBeyond · #17 Post by **AlienFromBeyond** » July 30th, 2009, 5:14 pm

Valiant Stand talent from Tactician gets overwritten by the Talisman of the Sun buff, even when it's weaker.

aegir ravenking · #18 Post by **aegir ravenking** » July 30th, 2009, 5:16 pm

Howl+nightmare is supposed to do that. And yes at first I thought it could be Howl, but at least 3 of the times mass regen failed on me I am sure the puppy never cast dire howl.

At some point I will watch the replay to be sure.

edit: Yep it is Lunge.

Dark_Nemesis · #19 Post by **Dark_Nemesis** » July 30th, 2009, 6:43 pm

Valiant Stand talent from Tactician gets overwritten by the Talisman of the Sun buff, even when it's weaker.

NNNOOOOO, that's one of the better combos too. Seriously, that item is probably the best in the game for her, easily. Definitely my first choice.

AlienFromBeyond · #20 Post by **AlienFromBeyond** » July 31st, 2009, 8:22 pm

Elreth wrote:Mass regen also wont stack with heart of the mountain

Or with Mana Rush.

I think combo stuff like GeneralFunk said would be best for situations like this.

EDIT: Mana Rush and Rapid Healing are overwriting each other. I presume this has to do with the talent that makes Mana Rush heal.

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