Eve of the Apocalypse: Twilight

Who exactly has the access to ban people and what's the deal?

That bot be trollan you.

Trolling me? By me not being the one banned? <_<

I would unban them, but I cannot see who is banned on the bot.

#1, nobody should ever be banned from the hb bot unless they've done something very major

#2, anyone who creates a game has the power to ban (or maybe just kick?) people in that game

#3, we're working on something to restrict people from making games who have been abusing it

#4, we can't see the bot's goddamn ban list

DarnYak

Ok, after getting access to the ban list, this isn't acceptable.

gimmethegepgun banned: lazerlazer and lordsuzaku
terraa banned musashi and zombie_chicken
puka banned kirbkillz
nwa banned cyberguru

All have been unbanned, and we're in the process of making the bot harder to use. We may end up restricting game making to clannies only, which isn't what i'd like.

DarnYak

Just do that and have it autohost for those who are non-clannies, at least if it's being abused.

For the record, I was banned for blinking during ravenous dive to place people on spots you can't run from. He got pissed needless to say.

Just ban all the banners.

I checked, and I wasn't unbanned.

Limiting access sucks, however the current situation sucks more.

Rather than just "clannies" how about a kind of application system for getting access to be able to host?

The application would have:

• [#IF]Application Representative.
• Person's account(s) and of course which realm it/they belong to.
• Person(s) of referral, (requires confirmation of referral for validity).
• A short summary displaying their knowledge of how and how not to use EotA-HB.

Also, there will be a probation period, if the applicant breaks any of the terms/rules of using the bot, needless to say the person will lose their access, but also the person of referral can lose access as well. There also could be some representatives that would be "clannies" that could run this process through in the channel, then post it on the forums for record (that wouldn't be held accountable like referrals are.)

Tedious process, but probably the best method that doesn't completely limit who can do it, while policing it in a way that doesn't having to deal with every "just any random come along" that abuses the ban. Feel free to suggest additional requirements to the application (I won't say take out, because I think all are necessary) or things to make the process better.


Also, I remember seeing terraa before. In a game I hosted, the person called me a "hacker" without stating what kind of "hacking" is being done when asked, then stated he/she is adding me to their banlist.

Limiting access sucks, however the current situation sucks more.

Rather than just "clannies" how about a kind of application system for getting access to be able to host?

Well, clan access can be granted ot those outside the clan, so that's basically already the current situation, without an official process.

Ideally we'd have a modiifed version of the bot that has less retarded permissions. However, i don't have time to do it myself.

DarnYak

I think it's general knowledge to everyone that it'd be best if GH++ had better access support, but sadly it isn't. I think the application and probation system would be the best until then, which could allow someone as pretty much a complete stranger but has potential to bring something to the table, with the risk of the person referring said person it's not completely likely the person wouldn't have been referred unless at least somewhat trustworthy. And if some abuse manages to fall through those cracks just take actions, it'd still be a lot less moderation required than relying on banning every user who abuses the bot.

LordSuzaku wrote:For the record, I was banned for blinking during ravenous dive to place people on spots you can't run from. He got pissed needless to say.

To be honest, that does sound quite annoying.


And ban worthy.

Not really ban worthy

just don't get hit

Tehw00tz wrote:

LordSuzaku wrote:For the record, I was banned for blinking during ravenous dive to place people on spots you can't run from. He got pissed needless to say.

To be honest, that does sound quite annoying.


And ban worthy.

Lol

Lame reason to ban anyone.

Maybe the banner knew Tehwootz?

So if he nets me and uses that combo it's my fault for not being net immune?

If you're going to bring items into it, you pretty much are net immune if you use Wands of Negation.

What if he stone sights me, waits for me to unfreeze then swoops?

He was buying dimensional wands.

Those work too, and not to mention just keep out of range from being dragged to them, Blink doesn't have unlimited range, and there's only a few spots that it'll work at.

He came to my lane, so it's his stupidity?

How come each one of your statements sound like questions?

Perhaps wrote:Limiting access sucks, however the current situation sucks more.

Rather than just "clannies" how about a kind of application system for getting access to be able to host?

The application would have:

• [#IF]Application Representative.
• Person's account(s) and of course which realm it/they belong to.
• Person(s) of referral, (requires confirmation of referral for validity).
• A short summary displaying their knowledge of how and how not to use EotA-HB.

Also, there will be a probation period, if the applicant breaks any of the terms/rules of using the bot, needless to say the person will lose their access, but also the person of referral can lose access as well. There also could be some representatives that would be "clannies" that could run this process through in the channel, then post it on the forums for record (that wouldn't be held accountable like referrals are.)

Tedious process, but probably the best method that doesn't completely limit who can do it, while policing it in a way that doesn't having to deal with every "just any random come along" that abuses the ban. Feel free to suggest additional requirements to the application (I won't say take out, because I think all are necessary) or things to make the process better.


Also, I remember seeing terraa before. In a game I hosted, the person called me a "hacker" without stating what kind of "hacking" is being done when asked, then stated he/she is adding me to their banlist.

My only response to this is "Are you retarded, or was your head run over by a steam roller?" I don't know anyone who would have the time for this let alone want to track all of it.

Simple fix, people abuse it, we take it away. Fucktards ruin the fun for everyone, that's why you strap them down to the bed with towels and beat them stupid with a bar of soap in a sock.

Simple fix, people abuse it, we take it away. Fucktards ruin the fun for everyone, that's why you strap them down to the bed with towels and beat them stupid with a bar of soap in a sock.

If only there was an internet equivalent, many problems would be solved.

Sucks that people are abusing the bot, I sure hope they don't fuck it up for everyone, the constant flow of Eota games is just too great.