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Eidolon Discussion

Posted: January 4th, 2009, 12:37 am
by Leek
Ok, just to make the topic since I did one for the Tyrant.

As far as I can tell, his Ultimate (Rotting Ancients) needs a bit of a change. With their unlimited lifespan, thousands of HP and fortified armor they are extremely hard to kill. They also out-range towers so can sit and snipe towers.

Re: Eidolon Discussion

Posted: January 4th, 2009, 7:08 am
by Dekar
You can even buff them with garg and grant them auras like martyrs. :lol:
In addition they have a very low priority as buildings, so they get targeted only when everything else is dead.

In our game we had 2-3 around the bridge on rock sieging the right outpost, and even though Ion disced, they did not get killed in the course of the game. Aditionally there were like 15-20 beetles with siege dmg walking around them.


edit: Oh my, his innate is so imba when its not getting destroyed immediately. And it has so much hp on hero lvl 1, melees basically cant kill it.

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I had like 15-18 of his innate and 3-4 treants out, spammed spore cloud on everything and stood near the towers all the time thanks to his shield. Massive locust plague and basically unlimited hp/mana for me. Was a 1on1 to test though.
Haunt is a good counter for his ultimate.


edit2:

And here comes the first abuse:

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Cast it on the mountain near towers, thanks to their very high regeneration they will survive forever.
Protip: Build siege gens.

Re: Eidolon Discussion

Posted: January 4th, 2009, 12:50 pm
by DarnYak
I just want to say the ult was never planned to be final. When making it, I decided the basic tree could have so many things wrong with it that i wanted to see how it worked out in actual play before I spent time adding to it.

Currently, the plan is to nerf the tree's defense quite a bit. It will also be limited to 40 seconds duration. During the duration, it slowly gets new shit (ie, at 5 seconds it gets 3 beetles, at 10s it gets the aura, etc. something every 5 seconds or so), untill it finally completely rots at 40 seconds, exploding. I'm also going to make it into a real building, the current non rotating thing is refusing to cooperate and rather pissing me off.

More feedback on it is still welcome though.

DarnYak