Eve of the Apocalypse: Twilight

More like Lady Yak.

Keep it up

Ok that's uncalled for, i challange you to some Kart n' Crazy

DarnYak

Now see, if it really was a women you wouldn't get to play computer games to solve your differences. More like not speaking to each other for 30 years.

uncalled for, i challange you to some Kart n' Crazy

DarnYak

Hey, free time should be spent making new EotA versions! Oh, hehehe, sorry, Lord Yak.

Because this thread is already far offtopic and about Dark:

Writing people personal messages with questions is quite useless if you dont allow them sending personal messages to you.

And in Germany you are allowed to drink with 18.

Because this thread is already far offtopic and about Dark:

No...it isn't

And I didn't write you any questions to my knowledge.

Writing people personal messages with questions is quite useless if you dont allow them sending personal messages to you.

And in Germany you are allowed to drink with 18.

Yeah, I thought about that after I wrote you the happy B-day thing. Sorry.

In Serbia, you're allowed to drink whenever you want.
I started around 15-6 I think.

Ever since I got ADSL, I like this place far more than the West.

Oh, and happy birthday Dekar.

America is better

DarkNemesis wrote:America is better

I'm pretty sure you've never been to Serbia so you can't form an informed opinion about it. I, on the other hand, have been to America, and I didn't exactly like it much.

Gatorade not only quenches your thirst better, it tastes better too.

I don't need to go to another country. We enjoy the most freedom of any country in the world. Yes, I can form an opinion. Europe is largely controlled by the government, and some of the rules/laws I've heard of made me all the more proud to be an American.

P.S. So wait, your a European? I thought you were joking.

I, on the other hand, have been to America, and I didn't exactly like it much.

Like what? Our free-market system/Capitalism?

DarkNemesis wrote:I don't need to go to another country. We enjoy the most freedom of any country in the world. Yes, I can form an opinion. Europe is largely controlled by the government, and some of the rules/laws I've heard of made me all the more proud to be an American.

You have no idea what you're talking about.

DarkNemesis wrote:Like what? Our free-market system/Capitalism?

I'll just politely ignore this.

My case is solidified then.

Discombobulator wrote:Oh, and happy birthday Dekar.

Thanks.

DarkNemesis wrote:My case is solidified then.

The only thing that's solidified is the shit you're standing in.

Dark is a foreigner.

Prolly an illegal immigrant Mexican, which makes his opinions all the more hilarious.

The only thing that's solidified is the shit you're standing in.

Such as the 1.2 trillion dollar debt were now in? Created by our new president?

Agreed.

Your right, Obama went from in the black to 1.2 trillion dollars in debt is just over 100 days! God damn Dark, why didn't you warn us?

Patriot Act? Clearly America isn't controlling its population at all

It's not even worth travelling through the states airports anymore, its ridiculous the BS they pull.

why didn't you warn us?

I did. I didn't vote for the dipshit.

Meh.
I'm an American citizen, but don't really consider myself American.

To be honest, the vast majority of what Americans consider to be freedoms can be found in the rest of the Western world. The rest of them don't apply to the average person (assuming the average person is not a missionary or activist).

I wouldn't really bring up the PATRIOT Act though. Its ramifications are completely overblown and do not affect 99% of Americans. The only "abuse" stemming from the PATRIOT Act I'm aware of is the applied extension of its provisions to business records, which was brought to light and promptly taken care of.

DarkNemesis wrote:

why didn't you warn us?

I did. I didn't vote for the dipshit.

Your country has been crap from before the nigra took over. Also see: Patriot Act, Warantless wiretapping, TSA.

Land of the Free, indeed. We Europeans hate your freedoms, and we're controlled by our governments.

If this is an atempt to blame bush, sorry, its simply not true. Now I don't by any means love the guy, but overall, he did a good job and definitly deserves praise for keeping the U.S. safe and winning two wars btw.

Back to the U.S. before Obama. Yes, your right we were in decline, however, we were (and still are) vastly more secured in this recession then alot of other countries. Too, under the Bush administration, we had steady job growth until 2006, which is when the Democrats took congress. Shorty thereafter is when the recession started to take effect. Similar instances happened under both Reagen and Clinton, were Reagan inherited a recession from Carter and Clinton passed one off to Bush.

Point being, you can blame Bush all you want and hate him, whatever. Did he spend too much? Yes, but its nowhere near what the Democrats are spending now. Its totally out of control.

We enjoy the most freedom of any country in the world.

If only this were still true. Sure, we still have some rights not found even among the rest of the western world (freedom of speech being the most notable - most have something similar, but not completely). But we've become an overregulated society because too many people think the government ought to tell us how to live. You must wear seatbelts while driving. Must wear a helmet for a bicycle helmet. Must buy toxic lightbulbs because they use slightly less energy. Can't hold a phone while driving (but may still talk, which is the dangerous part). Need a permit to do damned near any changes to your property. Must force your kid to have chemo therapy despite neither you nor the kid wanting or believing in it. Must vacinate your child or risk going to jail despite some evidence it might be dangerous in other ways. I'm sure there's thousands of more examples of government controlling our lives that we don't even realize are laws.

Granted, its necessary to point out that most countries that have more freedom are due to their governments being too ineffective to fuck with people's daily lives, not that they somehow value it.

And of course, the real irony?

I wouldn't really bring up the PATRIOT Act though. Its ramifications are completely overblown and do not affect 99% of Americans.

It this kind of crap that most people cite as the destruction of freedom/the constitution/etc. Oh, I won't deny its got its potential for abuses, and it needs to be revoked soon before it does get truely abused. But all this anger over an act to protect us against a very real external threat, yet won't effect almost any of us, but complete blindness to shit that affects us every single day.


DarnYak

Must force your kid to have chemo therapy despite neither you nor the kid wanting or believing in it.

Yeah, this story is crazy. Now they are chasing after him and his mother, I guess. All because they didn't bow down to the almighty government. Shame on them!

Something like the seatbelt and helmet law, I find kind of stupid myself. However, talking on the phone without a hands free, I agree with, because someone's stupid yabber mouth bobbing head can put me and other people in danger. Though an extreme example, I wouldn't want someone building a five story building with no foundation right next to my house/property (kind of like a King of The Hill episode involving the paranoid dude).

Laws that just restrict to protect oneself, I don't agree with.
Laws that restrict people's jackassery from one another, I will agree with.

Also, what do "best country" and "freedoms" have to do with what I like to shake one off to?

However, talking on the phone without a hands free, I agree with, because someone's stupid yabber mouth bobbing head can put me and other people in danger.

You're right, that one doesn't belong on the list for that reason. It is, however, still a bad law (which is why i got confused). Almsot all real studies have shown the probelm isn't someone holding a cell phone, but rather being distracted by talking to someone else. Thus the risk is the same whether it's holding a phone, using a hands free phone, or even talking to a passenger in the car (which, arguably, may be more dangerous because people will frequetnly look at the passenger while talking). Who got the law passed? The people who manufacture hands free devices, duh.

DarnYak

You guys need to become more socialist, then you'd be happier. America sux atm. USSR was greatest empire in world.

Well, US law, like all law, is set up to protect society. The difference between US law and European law is that it protects society under the guise of protecting individuals. The reason suicide is illegal has its roots in religiosity, but it, and other safety laws remain simply because death is costly. For example, if a man under debt commits suicide, his immediate family must pay. If he's the only working individual, they'll lose their property. Every person in society has a certain productive value, and death destroys that productivity. Therefore, the government seeks to protect productivity, and thereby society, by enforcing safety.