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Re: fountains
It may be better to make the front outpost T2, because healing fountains at mid would make it even harder to stop/counter a push past the moontear position.
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Re: fountains
The problem with fountains at such easy access in a key area as such, is classes that were built to be mana heavy to counter balance their fleet of powerful skills, now will have a beefed up mana pool, without any cost.
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Re: fountains
I wish the left lane had very few towers and the right lane had many... I dont know why he went the other way around with the map... never made any sense to me.
He helped it a little last revision, but I never really understood why left wasn't profoundly more easy to attack. I mean, the reason to spawn troops and push right is obvious, so you can get moon cores. But why you would push left when it's well towered and has no cores is beyond me.... if it was easier to push left than tright, I'd understand it... if anything i tseems harder
He helped it a little last revision, but I never really understood why left wasn't profoundly more easy to attack. I mean, the reason to spawn troops and push right is obvious, so you can get moon cores. But why you would push left when it's well towered and has no cores is beyond me.... if it was easier to push left than tright, I'd understand it... if anything i tseems harder
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Re: fountains
Because the siege towers on the left side do also attack the waves on the right side and deals more than 100 siege damage with a quite large AoE?
<EotA@Azeroth> YAKS GO MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Dekar: the ultimate ocean themed hero should buff and depend on spawn waves!
DarnYak: why is that
Dekar: WAVES
Dekar:
DarnYak: i was afraid that was the answer
Dekar: the ultimate ocean themed hero should buff and depend on spawn waves!
DarnYak: why is that
Dekar: WAVES
Dekar:
DarnYak: i was afraid that was the answer
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Re: fountains
This is what I would do, I even often find my self going to the outpost thinking it will heal, and then remember it won't.Dekar wrote:It may be better to make the front outpost T2, because healing fountains at mid would make it even harder to stop/counter a push past the moontear position.
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Re: fountains
I understand those stupid towers exist, but they do not determine the course of the game like moontears or a fallen outpost can. Yes they do _something_ but if you can't destroy the lefthand outpost, then the other team will get to use those same towers against you anyway. If you push hard there but can't take the outpost, you might be able to control them 66% of the time instead of 50% of the time? wooptido man.
I wasn't going to insult people by even mentioning the towers, because anybody experienced enough to bother with this forum already knows the towers are a failed attempt to balance the lefthand side of the map. Thanks for pretending I don't know that there are towers that can do a whopping 100 siege damage on a long cooldown to an area around a random target in the enemy horde. In practice it is in no way comparable to moontears
I wasn't going to insult people by even mentioning the towers, because anybody experienced enough to bother with this forum already knows the towers are a failed attempt to balance the lefthand side of the map. Thanks for pretending I don't know that there are towers that can do a whopping 100 siege damage on a long cooldown to an area around a random target in the enemy horde. In practice it is in no way comparable to moontears
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Re: fountains
Honestly, I was in a pub where it was 4 on the left and 1 on the right(me asking for help all game). My team was getting destroyed on the left side, and I couldnt push at all because of 2 cannon towers killing everything I would try to merc and push with. They can do quite a deal of damage to a push if they arent watched.
Line 'em up.
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Re: fountains
so, if you are playing a game where only 1 person on your team plays right, AND your team loses the left, you are in trouble? wow those towers must be great... or maybe its just that your team is committing all but 1 of its heroes to the weakest side and still losing it...
I guess I should have added that the towers are not important in an ordinary game where more than 1 person is pushing right... thereby avoiding right side pushes taking forever with inadequate healing to get hurt badly by the cannon towers...
I guess I should have added that the towers are not important in an ordinary game where more than 1 person is pushing right... thereby avoiding right side pushes taking forever with inadequate healing to get hurt badly by the cannon towers...
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Re: fountains
One thing I've thought about, is that maybe the moontear could alternate spawn between left and right, and random which one the first spawn is. Certainly give desirability for both lanes.
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Re: fountains
^^^I think this would also be a good suggestion
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Re: fountains
I'd say buff the towers until they are equally as important as the moontears. Maybe make them really harm building or something, they ARE seige towers after all.
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Re: fountains
Or instead of the cannon towers and sentry period, just have control points. That spawn additional units at each base for each spawn tick (added by mercinary units). At the bridge in the middle of the left side, on either side of it would have special control points, that when you first control it, it's an additional units for each base, the longer you hold it, the more units it offers. While the moontear still spawns on the right and cores are rewarded. Surely seems like a cross between obelisks, villagers, but it's less random than villagers, and doesn't exactly share the same dynamics as obelisk control.
Just throwing another idea out there. If you feel like throwing in tweaks to further develope it, be my guest.
Just throwing another idea out there. If you feel like throwing in tweaks to further develope it, be my guest.