Bitch thread

[CryptLord1234]

It also has 800 attack range vs 700 tower attack range.

Ahhhh. . .now THAT is a reason to use it against towers. . . ^_^

Anywho, if there isn't going to be any changes to BP in c5, maybe upping the damage Backfire does a bit, across the board? Something to give him a bit more of a "fuck off" spell before he gets majorly changed.

[Dark_Nemesis]

Tyrant's freeze shards are rather pathetic, at least for the mana part, and more often than not you have to weave through thickets of enemy troops just to get to them, on top of blowing 40 crystal just to make them....meh, ok.

[Cokemonkey11]

replace dryad's dispell with something new and cool, and i'll call the next version a success

[Dark_Nemesis]

I agree with Coke, who knows, I may even start playing her!

Her current dispell (should it work right) would be super cool, I can see it wreaking heros like Gravel. I'd even argue leave it how it is and just fix it, it is actually rather impressive.

[Cokemonkey11]

the concept of it currently would be way too much of a hero killer deterrent I think. It would just rape fenris way too hard.

I think a change would be better.

[Dark_Nemesis]

Fenris would still manage to deal some wicked dmg, perhaps even kill her once or twice. Dryad is very squishy, and getting repeated kills even without howl/ham is possible with some good dmg stacked.

I really don't know, I haven't seen it work properly so I have no way of knowing if it's too strong or vice versa.

[tks_ftw]

I am not familiar with the Dryad's dispell, so if it were to work properly would it be an aoe dispell? If so, then yes Fenris would have a harder time catching her. If it's targeted then she would have to decide whether to dispell the hamstring from herself, or the dire howl off of Fenris. Would also dispell solar boon, but if I was Fenris trying to kill a Dryad with a working dispell I would save the solar boon for after the dispell, just to get that extra damage in.

On the note of Fenris, I think his ultimate is a little underpowered, and doesn't do much to make me want to put points into it. The talent for lunge can make the difference between the one that got away and the one that's dead. The dire howl talent, I'm not sure that one even works. I don't think I've seen units die from the howl before, though I can't say for sure. The dream leap talent is kinda meh, I think it would be better if it worked every time you used it, blinking you a certain distance then finishing the rest with standard dream leap travel. Could also act to extend the range of the spell, though it might be complicated to have it change the data to include the blink distance as well, not sure about it. The ultimate's talent doesn't seem worth it since the ultimate doesn't do much better with it. Maybe if the talent increased not only duration but damage as well?

That's all I can think of, for now

[AlienFromBeyond]

It's be awesome if his ultimate talent let it make wolves against buildings rather than only units and the wolves hitting buildings if there's nothing left.

[Dekar]

Not sure, but I think Hamstring is a Wound and can only be dispelled by healing. Not that I ever bothered to check that and/or using dispels.

[aegir ravenking]

I believe that the only thing that can remove hamstring and mortal strike is the DS's expunge. It is also the only spell that can remove the shield spells (though they can also be damaged by whatever the dreadlord's name is's spell Plunder).

[jamn455]

Fix the game.

[Dark_Nemesis]

I am looking forward to seeing a revamp'd BP. I miss playing him. He can actually be quite fun, though his roles are hugely limited atm, one of the reasons I haven't played him in a while. So yes, I am bitching here. PLEASE FIX BP! BP FOR PRESIDENT!

Oh yes.....

AND GET D OUT! All the c versions are slightly annoying. Yes, another bitch. Even a heads up would hold me over, for a while...

[Kalrithus]

uh so whats wrong with BP? I mean besides being pretty much the best sieger ever?

[Dark_Nemesis]

Yak seems to think there is something wrong with him, as he stated BP is scheduled to get a revamp, though I don't know when.

My thoughts:

Yes, BP is the best seiger, but really, what can he do beyond that? He lacks tanking potential (Kindle and FOTD don't make the cut imo), he's bad even at fighting 1v1 combat, he lacks sufficient hero support and AoE dmg. He can do two things, seige and troop support. His troop support isn't even remarkable imo, as Gravel and Garg, easily surpass him there. Not to mention the good skills he does have are hugely situational and iffy.

[Luftwaffles]

uh so whats wrong with BP? I mean besides being pretty much the best sieger ever?

He's too powerful when no one on your team has dispel and is a waste of space if anyone on your team does have dispel (except for Phoenixes, and but that sucks if you're playing vs. DS).

[Lanthis]

I wish you could mass command the phoenixes to suicide... or better yet suicide dive with increased speed but reduced damage.

[coramoor2]

I always figured the big issue with the BP is his complete lack of scaling. I think his fire's hp regen scales with int, and the duration a phoenix/skeleton will last increases with int. and there ends his scaling. backfire needs to scale, his ult needs to scale, and it would be nice if the fire and phoenix scaling was more useful. I'm not sure how i feel about kaboom hitting buildings, maybe if it was a scaling spell and started off really crappy but increased proportional to his int or str? his buff might need to be looked at, but i actually like it for the most part, armor and dmg bonus is pretty significant, but HotM does both and gives bonus regen.

[Luftwaffles]

I wish you could mass command the phoenixes to suicide... or better yet suicide dive with increased speed but reduced damage.

I do too but there's an easy work around (just click on the building you wanna blow up in succession and per click a phoenix will go and bomb it). It's kind of nice really though being able to control where they're going without having them all go blow themselves up at once.

[CryptLord1234]

So. . .howsabout a D, there, Yak?

[DarnYak]

I haven't had time to even look at it since school started (aside from a day trying to write a new ai for Fenris, which I want to do but need to abandon). Good news is 4 day weekend this weekend.

DarnYak

[CryptLord1234]

Sick. I try not to bother you too much about it, but every once in awhile it's nice to get that, "I *am* here, guys, and I know the map exists." kinda thing.

[tks_ftw]

What were you planning on changing with Fenris' Ai?

[Dekar]

Maybe he wants to stop him from soloing obelisks with lvl 10, what ultimately fails and puts him 20 levels behind everyone else?