Crowdsourcing balance game
Posted: December 14th, 2013, 5:41 pm
This will be elaborated on a bit more in an upcoming post in the balance thread, but you don't need to know anything going on in that thread to respond to this.
So basically, I'm asking for people to reply to this post with their personal list of "fudge" factors on the various heroes and damage skills. For damage skills, I'm asking for a rough effectiveness of the skill outside of its raw damage. Taking AM for example, Infernal Binding I personally rate its effectiveness at 125% because of the ethereal damage bonus (which is being nerfed to 125% btw) as well as its slow/disable. Necrotic Shot I would rate at 200% since it heals at the full rate it drains, and has the healing reduction on top of it. Not all numbers are above 100%, for Pheonix Strike, I'd put it at 50% since there's a good chance to miss or have a spawn walk in the way.
Assume base damage is the maximum possible perfect hit, ie standing in Blade Rain for its full duration. Also presume the spell is being used against an enemy hero of average skill.
Heroes get their own fudge factor, but its rating the overall package. For instance, flyers I rate at 130% just for the flying bonus, TC/SB I rate at 70% just because their damage spells tend to overlap, and heals/shields I give a small bump for letting the hero survive longer then their natural health pool. Don't feel bad if you leave most heroes at 100%.
So here's the list:
Skills
Gale
Incinerate
Arctic Cataclysm
Caustic Breath
Holy Strike
Rockslide
Rogue Wave
Frost Spire
Terra Smash
Pestilence
Pyroclasm
Whirl
Shadowclap
Inferno
Pheonix Strike
Lightning Tether
Snowblast
Tempest
Siphon Glyph
Hazard Slash
Explosives
Blast Arrow
Neutralize
Blade Rain
Wilting
Slice
Hold Person
Chasten
Demoralizing Blow
Soulstrike
Echoing Strike
Degeneration
Smash
Grasping Tree
Ice Lance
Lunge
Smite
Maw of Death
Cinderfury
Rend Soul
Mortal Strike
Shatter
Dominant Blow (Str)
Dominant Blow (Agi)
Dominant Blow (Int)
Attack of Opportunity
Necrotic Shot
Infernal Binding
Swoop
Entangling Seed
Doom Hammer
Heroes:
Arcane Archer
Blazing Priest
Time Cleric
Arboreal Crusader
Dread Shaman
Scarab
Soul Binder
Glacial Tyrant
Acid Reaver
Divine Wizard
Colossus
Crest Witch
Icespinner
Ascendant
Defiler
Emberwraith
Forlorn Martyr
Blackguard
Fire Knight
Wretched Chef
Aeromancess
Mystic Swashbuckler
Elder Treant
Master of the Hunt
Behemoth
Incarnation
Sorrow Liege
High Oracle
Stormweaver
Rune Knight
Infiltrator
Tactician
Arcane Mistress
Grim Hag
Putrid Eidolon
Nephilim
Scarlet Maiden
Crimson Squall
Thanks for your feedback,
DarnYak
So basically, I'm asking for people to reply to this post with their personal list of "fudge" factors on the various heroes and damage skills. For damage skills, I'm asking for a rough effectiveness of the skill outside of its raw damage. Taking AM for example, Infernal Binding I personally rate its effectiveness at 125% because of the ethereal damage bonus (which is being nerfed to 125% btw) as well as its slow/disable. Necrotic Shot I would rate at 200% since it heals at the full rate it drains, and has the healing reduction on top of it. Not all numbers are above 100%, for Pheonix Strike, I'd put it at 50% since there's a good chance to miss or have a spawn walk in the way.
Assume base damage is the maximum possible perfect hit, ie standing in Blade Rain for its full duration. Also presume the spell is being used against an enemy hero of average skill.
Heroes get their own fudge factor, but its rating the overall package. For instance, flyers I rate at 130% just for the flying bonus, TC/SB I rate at 70% just because their damage spells tend to overlap, and heals/shields I give a small bump for letting the hero survive longer then their natural health pool. Don't feel bad if you leave most heroes at 100%.
So here's the list:
Skills
Gale
Incinerate
Arctic Cataclysm
Caustic Breath
Holy Strike
Rockslide
Rogue Wave
Frost Spire
Terra Smash
Pestilence
Pyroclasm
Whirl
Shadowclap
Inferno
Pheonix Strike
Lightning Tether
Snowblast
Tempest
Siphon Glyph
Hazard Slash
Explosives
Blast Arrow
Neutralize
Blade Rain
Wilting
Slice
Hold Person
Chasten
Demoralizing Blow
Soulstrike
Echoing Strike
Degeneration
Smash
Grasping Tree
Ice Lance
Lunge
Smite
Maw of Death
Cinderfury
Rend Soul
Mortal Strike
Shatter
Dominant Blow (Str)
Dominant Blow (Agi)
Dominant Blow (Int)
Attack of Opportunity
Necrotic Shot
Infernal Binding
Swoop
Entangling Seed
Doom Hammer
Heroes:
Arcane Archer
Blazing Priest
Time Cleric
Arboreal Crusader
Dread Shaman
Scarab
Soul Binder
Glacial Tyrant
Acid Reaver
Divine Wizard
Colossus
Crest Witch
Icespinner
Ascendant
Defiler
Emberwraith
Forlorn Martyr
Blackguard
Fire Knight
Wretched Chef
Aeromancess
Mystic Swashbuckler
Elder Treant
Master of the Hunt
Behemoth
Incarnation
Sorrow Liege
High Oracle
Stormweaver
Rune Knight
Infiltrator
Tactician
Arcane Mistress
Grim Hag
Putrid Eidolon
Nephilim
Scarlet Maiden
Crimson Squall
Thanks for your feedback,
DarnYak