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 Post subject: Grading Heroes
PostPosted: February 27th, 2015, 9:52 pm 
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Yak wanted me to grade heroes based on some categories. So I did.

    Basic Play: Describes how effectively beginning and intermediate players can use the hero. Other players are assumed to not be accustomed to EotA in general and may not know how to play against the hero. A low learning curve is a good score.

    Advanced Play
    : All players are assumed to be familiar with EotA. Opposing players know what the hero can do and can take strategies to play against the hero. A good score here indicates how well the hero fares in capable hands and against knowledgeable opponents.

    Role: This is about the hero's performance with respect to its main function. For instance, Rune Knight's role would be to support with shields. A good score here indicates that the hero excels at its role.

    Versatility: This is about the different dimensions to the hero: for example, can the hero be a capable player killer while also clearing out spawn waves?? A good score here indicates that the hero can provide multiple assets to the team.

    Scaling: How long does it take for the hero to be useful? Is the hero's potential worth the wait? Does the hero improve or decline as the game continues? A good score here means that the hero has very useful potential or remains relevant throughout the game.

    Items: Does the hero need items to perform well? A good score here means that the hero does not need to rely on items that much.

For the sake of making this post brief, I won't provide my reasoning, but feel free to comment or ask questions.

Credits to Yak for formatting this because I was too lazy to.

Basic Play | Advanced Play | Role | Versatility | Scaling | Items

  • Aeromancess
    B C B B B C

  • Arcane Archer
    B C B B C C

  • Blazing Priest
    C D C C D B

  • Divine Wizard
    C A A C A C

  • Infiltrator
    B F C B C C

  • Mystic Swashbuckler
    D C C D C D

  • Rune Knight
    B C C C C A

  • Soul Binder
    D C C C B D

  • Tactician
    B A B C B C

  • Time Cleric
    D B C D B D

  • Acid Reaver
    B A B C B C

  • Arboreal Crusader
    B B A A B C

  • Arcane Mistress
    B B B C B C

  • Colossus
    C B B C B C

  • Crest Witch
    A C B C C B

  • Dread Shaman
    C B B B B B

  • Elder Treant
    B C B C C B

  • Grim Hag
    C A A C A D

  • Icespinner
    B B B B B C

  • Master of the Hunt
    D B B D B F

  • Scarab
    C C C C C B

  • Ascendant
    D A A B B D

  • Behemoth
    B C B C B C

  • Defiler
    C C C B C B

  • Emberwraith
    C B B B B C

  • Forlorn Martyr
    D B B C A D

  • High Oracle
    C D C C F B

  • Incarnation
    C C B C B C

  • Nephilim
    F B C B C F

  • Putrid Eidolon
    B B C B C B

  • Sorrow Liege
    C B C C C B

  • Crimson Squall
    D B B C B D

  • Glacial Tyrant
    C B B B C C

  • Scarlet Maiden
    F B B C A F

  • Blackguard
    C B B C B C

  • Fire Knight
    C C C D B C

  • Stormweaver
    B B B C B C

  • Wretched Chef
    C C C C C C


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 Post subject: Re: Grading Heroes
PostPosted: February 28th, 2015, 9:29 am 
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Next time add the template escaped, because it can't be copied as it is now... btw welcome back I hope you show up tonight... =)

I don't think there is a single hero who can score an A on "basic play" =S (I don't think it's a bad thing though)

Basic Play | Advanced Play | Roles | Versatility | Scaling | Items

  • Aeromancess
    B A A A A B

  • Arcane Archer
    B C B A C A

  • Blazing Priest
    B B A B D B

  • Divine Wizard
    B B A C A C

  • Infiltrator*
    C D C B A C

  • Mystic Swashbuckler
    C B C C B C

  • Rune Knight
    B B A B B B

  • Soul Binder
    D C C C B B

  • Tactician
    B A B C B B

  • Time Cleric**
    D C C C C D

  • Acid Reaver
    B A A A A B

  • Arboreal Crusader
    B B A A B C

  • Arcane Mistress
    B B B B B C

  • Colossus
    B B B B B C

  • Crest Witch
    B B B C C B

  • Dread Shaman
    C A A B B B

  • Elder Treant
    C B B C A B

  • Grim Hag
    C A A B A C

  • Icespinner
    B B B B A C

  • Master of the Hunt
    B A B B A C

  • Scarab
    B B B A C B

  • Ascendant
    C A A B A C

  • Behemoth
    C A B C A C

  • Defiler
    B A B B C B

  • Emberwraith
    C A B C A C

  • Forlorn Martyr
    D B B C A D

  • High Oracle
    C C B C D B

  • Incarnation
    D C B D B C

  • Nephilim
    F D C C C F

  • Putrid Eidolon
    B B B B B C

  • Sorrow Liege
    C B C C B B

  • Crimson Squall
    C B C C B D

  • Glacial Tyrant
    C B B C B C

  • Scarlet Maiden
    D B C C A D

  • Blackguard
    C B B B A C

  • Fire Knight
    C B B B A C

  • Stormweaver
    D A A B A C

  • Wretched Chef
    B B B B B C

*that D comes from the wand otherwise it would be an A
**I would say it changes a LOT whether alone or supporting
***suffers from the wand problem too, less degree


Last edited by Jouven on March 1st, 2015, 6:20 am, edited 3 times in total.

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 Post subject: Re: Grading Heroes
PostPosted: February 28th, 2015, 10:47 am 
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Quote:
I don't think there is a single hero who can score an A on "basic play" =S (I don't think it's a bad thing though)

Yes, it most likely just indicate how complex heroes are in EotA. I would say in general that ranged heroes are easier to use in basic play thanks to their easier time in the beginning where they can safely harass and creep.

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that D comes from the wand otherwise it would be an A

Wand definitely hurts, but I think it's overall knowledge of invisibility that hurts her much more. I would say Amulet of Detection hurts her much more thanks to its relative spammability and the fact that it can also detect her mines.

It looks like overall that your grades aren't too different from my grades.

Here's the code if anyone wants to have formatting:
Code:
    [center]Basic Play | Advanced Play | Roles | Versatility | Scaling | Items[/center]
    [list]
    [*]Aeromancess[center][color=#00a000]B[/color]   C   [color=#00a000]B[/color]   [color=#00a000]B[/color]   [color=#00a000]B[/color]   C[/center]
    [*]Arcane Archer[center][color=#00a000]B[/color]   C   [color=#00a000]B[/color]   [color=#00a000]B[/color]   C   C[/center]
    [*]Blazing Priest[center]C   [color=#704000]D[/color]   C   C   [color=#704000]D[/color]   [color=#00a000]B[/color][/center]
    [*]Divine Wizard[center]C   [b][color=#b0b000]A[/color][/b]   [b][color=#b0b000]A[/color][/b]   C   [b][color=#b0b000]A[/color][/b]   C[/center]
    [*]Infiltrator[center][color=#00a000]B[/color]   [b][color=#ff0000]F[/color][/b]   C   [color=#00a000]B[/color]   C   C[/center]
    [*]Mystic Swashbuckler[center][color=#704000]D[/color]   C   C   [color=#704000]D[/color]   C   [color=#704000]D[/color][/center]
    [*]Rune Knight[center][color=#00a000]B[/color]   C   C   C   C   [b][color=#b0b000]A[/color][/b][/center]
    [*]Soul Binder[center][color=#704000]D[/color]   C   C   C   [color=#00a000]B[/color]   [color=#704000]D[/color][/center]
    [*]Tactician[center][color=#00a000]B[/color]   [b][color=#b0b000]A[/color][/b]   [color=#00a000]B[/color]   C   [color=#00a000]B[/color]   C[/center]
    [*]Time Cleric[center][color=#704000]D[/color]   [color=#00a000]B[/color]   C   [color=#704000]D[/color]   [color=#00a000]B[/color]   [color=#704000]D[/color][/center]
    [*]Acid Reaver[center][color=#00a000]B[/color]   [b][color=#b0b000]A[/color][/b]   [color=#00a000]B[/color]   C   [color=#00a000]B[/color]   C[/center]
    [*]Arboreal Crusader[center][color=#00a000]B[/color]   [color=#00a000]B[/color]   [b][color=#b0b000]A[/color][/b]   [b][color=#b0b000]A[/color][/b]   [color=#00a000]B[/color]   C[/center]
    [*]Arcane Mistress[center][color=#00a000]B[/color]   [color=#00a000]B[/color]   [color=#00a000]B[/color]   C   [color=#00a000]B[/color]   C[/center]
    [*]Colossus[center]C   [color=#00a000]B[/color]   [color=#00a000]B[/color]   C   [color=#00a000]B[/color]   C[/center]
    [*]Crest Witch[center][b][color=#b0b000]A[/color][/b]   C   [color=#00a000]B[/color]   C   C   [color=#00a000]B[/color][/center]
    [*]Dread Shaman[center]C   [color=#00a000]B[/color]   [color=#00a000]B[/color]   [color=#00a000]B[/color]   [color=#00a000]B[/color]   [color=#00a000]B[/color][/center]
    [*]Elder Treant[center][color=#00a000]B[/color]   C   [color=#00a000]B[/color]   C   C   [color=#00a000]B[/color][/center]
    [*]Grim Hag[center]C   [b][color=#b0b000]A[/color][/b]   [b][color=#b0b000]A[/color][/b]   C   [b][color=#b0b000]A[/color][/b]   [color=#704000]D[/color][/center]
    [*]Icespinner[center][color=#00a000]B[/color]   [color=#00a000]B[/color]   [color=#00a000]B[/color]   [color=#00a000]B[/color]   [color=#00a000]B[/color]   C[/center]
    [*]Master of the Hunt[center][color=#704000]D[/color]   [color=#00a000]B[/color]   [color=#00a000]B[/color]   [color=#704000]D[/color]   [color=#00a000]B[/color]   [b][color=#ff0000]F[/color][/b][/center]
    [*]Scarab[center]C   C   C   C   C   [color=#00a000]B[/color][/center]
    [*]Ascendant[center][color=#704000]D[/color]   [b][color=#b0b000]A[/color][/b]   [b][color=#b0b000]A[/color][/b]   [color=#00a000]B[/color]   [color=#00a000]B[/color]   [color=#704000]D[/color][/center]
    [*]Behemoth[center][color=#00a000]B[/color]   C   [color=#00a000]B[/color]   C   [color=#00a000]B[/color]   C[/center]
    [*]Defiler[center]C   C   C   [color=#00a000]B[/color]   C   [color=#00a000]B[/color][/center]
    [*]Emberwraith[center]C   [color=#00a000]B[/color]   [color=#00a000]B[/color]   [color=#00a000]B[/color]   [color=#00a000]B[/color]   C[/center]
    [*]Forlorn Martyr[center][color=#704000]D[/color]   [color=#00a000]B[/color]   [color=#00a000]B[/color]   C   [b][color=#b0b000]A[/color][/b]   [color=#704000]D[/color][/center]
    [*]High Oracle[center]C   [color=#704000]D[/color]   C   C   [b][color=#ff0000]F[/color][/b]   [color=#00a000]B[/color][/center]
    [*]Incarnation[center]C   C   [color=#00a000]B[/color]   C   [color=#00a000]B[/color]   C[/center]
    [*]Nephilim[center][b][color=#ff0000]F[/color][/b]   [color=#00a000]B[/color]   C   [color=#00a000]B[/color]   C   [b][color=#ff0000]F[/color][/b][/center]
    [*]Putrid Eidolon[center][color=#00a000]B[/color]   [color=#00a000]B[/color]   C   [color=#00a000]B[/color]   C   [color=#00a000]B[/color][/center]
    [*]Sorrow Liege[center]C   [color=#00a000]B[/color]   C   C   C   [color=#00a000]B[/color][/center]
    [*]Crimson Squall[center][color=#704000]D[/color]   [color=#00a000]B[/color]   [color=#00a000]B[/color]   C   [color=#00a000]B[/color]   [color=#704000]D[/color][/center]
    [*]Glacial Tyrant[center]C   [color=#00a000]B[/color]   [color=#00a000]B[/color]   [color=#00a000]B[/color]   C   C[/center]
    [*]Scarlet Maiden[center][b][color=#ff0000]F[/color][/b]   [color=#00a000]B[/color]   [color=#00a000]B[/color]   C   [b][color=#b0b000]A[/color][/b]   [b][color=#ff0000]F[/color][/b][/center]
    [*]Blackguard[center]C   [color=#00a000]B[/color]   [color=#00a000]B[/color]   C   [color=#00a000]B[/color]   C[/center]
    [*]Fire Knight[center]C   C   C   [color=#704000]D[/color]   [color=#00a000]B[/color]   C[/center]
    [*]Stormweaver[center][color=#00a000]B[/color]   [color=#00a000]B[/color]   [color=#00a000]B[/color]   C   [color=#00a000]B[/color]   C[/center]
    [*]Wretched Chef[center]C   C   C   C   C   C[/center][/list]



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 Post subject: Re: Grading Heroes
PostPosted: February 28th, 2015, 6:21 pm 
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If people want to make their own lists I can post the excel sheet to make it easier, but I think it'd be more interesting to debate the merits of one and revise accordingly.

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