Eve of the Apocalypse: Twilight

I don't even know what to say to this.

If you had your way there wouldn't even be items or other interesting things.

Sorry you guys are stuck with this version another week. I got halfway through item changes and then "important things" took up my time. Oh, and I probably won't be around for today's games either. :( On the plus side: Next week will have quite a few new items and possibly other stuff! :D

A little early, just curious to see a show of hands for today?

This hero can't be tank or support, so he is only a damage dealer.

Absolutely not true.

Bane -Dragonfear: A decent innate, though kinda chancy. Lower talent cost maybe or include some other bonus? -Charge: Don't care for it. Needs work. -Acid Sheath: Very powerful, even at rank one. Only complaint is the negative attack dmg AoE is for attacking melee units only :( -Caustic Breath: Ver...

Strength heroes benefited tremendously, particularly if you purchased any of the new shield items that gave mana, regen, or int.....

A poll where 6 people respond isn't very enlightening when something's fairly complex like this.

Except people are more likely to respond to "yes" or "no" instead of writing out lengthy arguments why they like/dislike something?

I really liked the new change.

You ought to post a poll or something and see where people stand.

I realize you're not completely finished with the elf revamps but I wanted to bitch a little more about the need to nerf swashy. The amount of crits, stuns, and blinks makes that hero extremely powerful....And yes, the added items help. Alot.

The ones that need it, yea. Probably 2-3 new artifacts too.

You scrapped the fury orb

Are all the items getting active/passive skills?

Incinerate graphic effect seems to be messed up. Periodically displys/doesn't disply burst effect. Appears to work fine beyond that, though.

The evocation gloves should probably go in here. I've been punching in some quick numbers, and for the price, the gloves are pretty much a waste of money. For instance: A +5 Wisdom Ring gives SB an additional 27 dmg to Incinerate and 24 dmg to Carnage, at a cost of 3.5 k gold. the Evoc gloves, howev...

Did a 40 minute single to get the feel of some of his revamps. He seems very well balanced overall. The only complaints (possibly) are that Soulstrike is useless and Mend is somewhat of a weak spell beyond 1 point--or without the invested talents. I've also noticed SB becomes alot more powerful with...

On one game i was able to chain 3 soulstrikes together on a single target and still did crap dmg to it.

I have a really hard time believing this is the case unless they were all low ranks without some decent evoc/int.

Soulstrike is complete garbage so there's absolutely no reason NOT to go Decoy/fiery explosion skill with 1-2 points in Mend+talent. His ult does ridiculous damage though, it's hilarious. Um....what? I'm not sure what your definition of a good spell is but...Soulstrike is a solid skill if upgraded ...

I will occasionally get the Mana Orb if I have a tank with low mana but spells that you need to use a lot.

Same here. Gravel, BP, Scarab, and even Bane and Fenris come to mind....This doesn't seem to be a problem anymore since the added shield items seem particularly generous to tanking heroes.

Where do you stop if you give bounties to mercenary units? Next it is mercenary heroes, then its water elementals, poison skeletons, serpent wards, and sludge monstrocities. I'll concede a little here and give you the benefit of the doubt. But mercs seem to be disproportionally more powerful than a...

I may be going way out of bounds with this statement, but I am pretty sure that you can use your heroes attack to kill the magic immune mercenaries. Yes with 20 armor and 1200 hp, that's no biggie, right? And this was tested in a game, mercs DO NOT give you exp Well...Makes my argument that much mo...

It is one of the reasons you hire mercs,

Since when? Mercs are primarily hired to aid in sieges.

if you don't want to use spells and stuff on them just hire your own mercs.

It's not a question of want to, and you're forgetting a third of the mercs are spell immune...

Killing hired mercs should give you some sort of (added) reward. I realize you gain xp, but overall, it's nearly worthless in the big scheme of things. I'll explain....Mercs typically aren't hired en mass until late(r) game, and by that time you've upgraded your spells fully, so the xp gained from k...

Honestly, people will figure it out quick enough when they go to temper it. It shouldn't be a huge issue. I'd say leave the 3 tier upgrade scale.

Keep in mind they are proportionally more expensive per upgrade, as well as the initial cost being higher. That, and you can only buy one of each.

Currently Shields upgrade as +0, +3, +5. I'm wondering, are people ok with that naming convention, or is it confusing ("wtf why did it skip 3 levels this is a bug")

Might be better if they're just +1 +2 +3

This could be confusing to some players. Probably scale it like Zdig suggested.

Yeah and the Glacial item says it gives 5 stregnth at rank 0 when it actually gives 12. The rest of the time it scales properly though...which is 14 at rank 3 and 25 at rank 5 I believe.